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Post by Silent Seraphim on Mar 20, 2005 18:00:04 GMT -4
For those of you who don't know, in J. Michael Straczynski's book 'The Complete Book of Scriptwriting', there is a premise of an un-produced RGB episode called 'Midnight on the Lady M'. It is a rough draft of an episode which never made it to air, for reasons unknown.
For those of you who have read it, I was wondering what you thought about it, about why it wasn't produced, and about the episode in general. Personally, I thought it would have made quite a good episode. It has some great lines in it, and some great comic moments in it. It touches on the subject of new-age practices versus science in dealing with the supernatural, which I think could have been quite interesting to see. It has quite an exciting finale, and I think that the final scene between Ray and Elizabeth could been quite heart-wrenching to watch.
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Post by The Joker on Mar 20, 2005 20:05:17 GMT -4
I reckon it would have gone down as a classic episode, for all the reasons you mentioned above. As for why it was never produced, I can only speculate that the network soulsuckers thought it would be too scary and/or intense for the kids (the same reason they vetoed the original idea for "Egon's Ghost", whereby Egon was meant to actually die - albeit not permanently).
And as I said in my PM, it would make a great fanfic challenge...to write a full version of the episode. What do you think, fanficcers?
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Post by Silent Seraphim on Mar 21, 2005 14:30:46 GMT -4
And as I said in my PM, it would make a great fanfic challenge...to write a full version of the episode. What do you think, fanficcers? I think it would be quite a good challenge. The bare bones are there, so it could be interesting to see how different fan fic writers would interpret the episode. The character of Elizabeth could at least give the Ray fans someone other than Elaine Fuhrman to think/write about. By the way, thank you very much to everyone who PM/emailed me their thanks. It's nice to know that some people appreciate the efforts I made in transcribing the complete episode for them.  |
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Post by Fritz on Mar 21, 2005 19:41:30 GMT -4
I'm clearly out of the loop here somehow...
Sounds like another JMS masterpiece in the making. Yeah, I'm sure the "network soulsuckers" probably had something to do with it (and/or it was shelved when JMS quit)
I think this gets my interest in and of itself...
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Post by Silent Seraphim on Mar 22, 2005 15:18:03 GMT -4
I'm clearly out of the loop here somehow... I'm not quite sure why you are out of the loop, as I'm sure I recall Kingpin stating that he'd forward it to you. There's an excerpt I took from the un-produced episode in this thread on GBN: forums.ghostbusters.net/viewtopic.php?t=5702You can buy JMS's book freely on Amazon, or I could provide you with a transcript if you wish, but I do highly recommend reading the book in itself. I tend to agree with you on this point, as it would have been one of the few episodes which actually dealt with ghosts as 'once-living people', with emotions and personalities rather than the various demons and spectres we saw more regularly in the cartoon. |
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Post by Kingpin on Mar 23, 2005 9:17:38 GMT -4
I'll forward my copy to him this evening...
To tell the truth...I have been working on a treatment for this story (Based on JMS's unproduced story)...
However, I hadn't mentioned it yet, as I wasn't sure if I'd release it in the end, as it could be tantamount to basically releasing what had been put in his book...now, however, I will certainly work on a treatmen, and then if you guys think it's okay, post it when it's finished.
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Post by Silent Seraphim on Apr 5, 2005 15:27:55 GMT -4
Actually, I was wondering whether this unproduced story would fit anywhere in the timeline?
I do realise that it's not entirely a valid episode, because the episode itself wasn't made, but it's obviously something close to JMS's heart as he did mention in the book that he liked the premise 'enormously'.
It does also feature a love interest of Ray's, which might be worthy of note?
I'd love to read your treatment of the premise, Kingpin. I realise that it's an unproduced episode that it will be based upon, but I don't think it's much different to the fan stories which are based on real episodes of the show. There's a lot of missing detail that I'd love to read about, especially the final confrontation between Kishnu and the guys, and the final scene between Ray and Elizabeth.
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Post by Fritz on Apr 5, 2005 20:45:42 GMT -4
Actually, I was wondering whether this unproduced story would fit anywhere in the timeline? . Without knowing for sure when exactly JMS wrote it, but my first guess being before or around the time he quit, if I were doing the adaptation I'd intentionally set it in 1985, late in the syndicated package or around the beginning of Season 2. Janine and Slimer don't have to be in it (it sounds like they wouldn't have been) but of course writing Venkman Lorenzo Music-style is a must. |
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Post by Kingpin on Apr 7, 2005 20:12:11 GMT -4
Fritz, didn't you get the copy I sent? The one which had the start of my adaption of it?
I know I sent it to you.
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Post by ghostdiva on Apr 7, 2005 23:17:32 GMT -4
Hey I remember this from a long time ago but I forgot the details of it, I remember that it was really good though. Would someone be so kind as to send this my way. I would really appreciate it. I may take a stab at finishing it too.
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Post by Fritz on Apr 8, 2005 11:13:03 GMT -4
Fritz, didn't you get the copy I sent? The one which had the start of my adaption of it? I know I sent it to you. Yeah--sorry I didn't respond directly. Thanks for that--it looks like it would be an interesting episode. And a good fan fic. |
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