Flip Side: What are your thoughts?

[EGBFan]

admin said:

...It's been suggested that some fan fic writer familiar with the Now comic series (and for some reason I seem to be the prime candidate) try to come up with a conclusion to the story.

Well gosh golly darn, look what's happening now! ;D

Actually, Fritz, "Pandora's Box" was the reason that I decided I ought to try and watch this episode. As it turns out, I didn't have to try very hard - it's on Youtube.

Ghosthead1985 said:

Why didn't Peter, Ray or Egon notice that the Peoplebusters were ghostly versions of them and vice-versa?

This was one of the two glaring holes for me in that episode (the other being the Winston issue) About the only thing I can think of is that they did...but were too creeped out by it to say anything out loud.

As hard as I looked, I really couldn't see that in their reactions. I agree with both of those gripes, and I'm including the Winston issue in there, even though I knew about it in advance. And I do have a few others:

Ray reads from the side of the blimp: "Welcome to Boo York: the Big Pumpkin." I didn't see "the Big Pumpkin" anywhere on that blimp... but maybe I missed it. I do think it was unnecessary, though. We get the idea from "Boo York"; "the Big Pumpkin" both overemphasises and cheapens it, in my opinion.

I don't think Winston is stupid - of course, I know he isn't. But I did find it a little hard to believe that he was coming up with all the ideas, and so quickly. "That's ok, you guys have the key: your throwers!" Now surely Egon, or if not Ray, would have thought of that first.

The scene in the hairdresser's is overlong and boring. Then the Peoplebusters turn up, and walk past Peter and Egon twice. Surely they have some kind of equipment that could have detected them??

And I thought the struggle with the vortex went on far too long, on both sides, but never mind about that. Overall, in spite of everything I've just said, I do think it was a good episode - certainly of a better standard than most of the later ones, as I recall.

I see that the Janine of Boo York has also undergone some kind of bimboplasty, running off and screaming hysterically as soon as she sees a few people. If ever there had been a Laura Summer Peoplebuster Janine, I'm sure she wouldn't have done that. It was an interesting touch, if not entirely deliberate on the part of the writers.

[Fritz]

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I rewatched that episode on YouTube also back when I was adapting Part 2, and yeah, there are lots of head scratchers on that one. I forgot how full of holes the ending was, but it was probably one more reason I wasn't as fond of this one as some of the fans who were younger when it came out.

Surely they have some kind of equipment that could have detected them??

In our version they certainly would...I forgot what Ben suggested for it's name, something like Bio Kenetic Energy meter or somesuch, but he drew a nifty picture of it. It looks like a skull with a handle on it--I mention it in Part 3.

Probably the thing that made me scratch my head most when viewing it in more recent times was the business about the Ghostbusters trying to fire their proton packs and ghosts shot out of them. I realize the "real" intent was dramatic, to take the guys weapons out of play (how much of challenge is it if they just blast everybody they come across?) but coming up with the pseudoscience explaination took some work. I finally decided to try the concept that PKE in the Peoplebusters' dimension is positively charged instead of negatively charged, as Egon mentions in "Pandora's Box, Part 3" While I don't take that "shooting ghosts out of their proton guns" scene literally, it would mean their beams are effectively harmless against the Peoplebusters in their home dimension. That in turn led to some of the ideas that sprung up in "Pandora's Box, Part 3"

I see that the Janine of Boo York has also undergone some kind of bimboplasty, running off and screaming hysterically as soon as she sees a few people.

Pfft...that didn't make her much different from the "real" Janine of the time.

If ever there had been a Laura Summer Peoplebuster Janine, I'm sure she wouldn't have done that. It was an interesting touch, if not entirely deliberate on the part of the writers

The Ghostbusters would've been in deep deep sh*t in that circumstance.

[ghostdiva]

I haven't commented on this yet...Flip side is not one of my favorite eps. I think the only thing that saves it is the way Fritz has used the villians in his, much better than the original, stories.

They used to re-run this one a lot when I was young and I most ly just remember the barber shop scene, it was very funny back then, now it is pretty dull, and dumb. I also remember the GB kite in the park, I used to have a plastic GB kite and my little sister tore it up. Oh well.

I guess I couldn't really list any more reasons why this wasn't the best ep that someone else hasn't already said, it just could have been better, as others have pointed out, and it is sort of a shame really that it didn't live up to its original potential, it would have been much better if it had been done during the early years.
ghostdiva

[Jason Knetge]

admin said:

Surely they have some kind of equipment that could have detected them??

In our version they certainly would...I forgot what Ben suggested for it's name, something like Bio Kenetic Energy meter or somesuch, but he drew a nifty picture of it. It looks like a skull with a handle on it--I mention it in Part 3.

Probably the thing that made me scratch my head most when viewing it in more recent times was the business about the Ghostbusters trying to fire their proton packs and ghosts shot out of them. I realize the "real" intent was dramatic, to take the guys weapons out of play (how much of challenge is it if they just blast everybody they come across?) but coming up with the pseudoscience explaination took some work. I finally decided to try the concept that PKE in the Peoplebusters' dimension is positively charged instead of negatively charged, as Egon mentions in "Pandora's Box, Part 3" While I don't take that "shooting ghosts out of their proton guns" scene literally, it would mean their beams are effectively harmless against the Peoplebusters in their home dimension. That in turn led to some of the ideas that sprung up in "Pandora's Box, Part 3"

that reminds me the Peoplebusters may have there own type proton pack in the same way the Ghostbusters have slime packs

why who knows may be at one time the Peoplebusters were Ghostbusters just like the Ghostbusters were Peoplebusters.

the may even have settings 1-5 on they're slime guns

[Dr. Simeon Spengler]

jasonknetge said:

that reminds me the Peoplebusters may have there own type proton pack in the same way the Ghostbusters have slime packs

why who knows may be at one time the Peoplebusters were Ghostbusters just like the Ghostbusters were Peoplebusters.

the may even have settings 1-5 on they're slime guns

Youi mean the time when the GB were the crimebusters? Hmm that's an interesting thought. But that would mean they made proton packs, that actually worked on the Flip-Side. As you remember the Proton Packs of the GB didn't.

And what setting could they have on their Slime guns? I can't think of any.
And what should they have instead of Slime Blower's?
Well that would gib´ve me an idea: Music. Since the slime in the movie replied positively on nice Music and everything on the Flipside is made from ectoplasm it would be simple if they juast had Music to use. Of course negatively charged.