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Post by EGBFan on Jul 1, 2006 7:25:32 GMT -4
Imagine if Kylie were to still wear black lipstick and a pound of mascara when she turns fifty, y'know what I'm saying? Funny you should bring that up. I've been quietly wondering about it for... ooh... maybe not quite a year now. I'm glad somebody else seems to have considered it, for a few seconds at least, so I'll ask you (although of course anyone's opinion would be much appreciated): what do you think would be a sensible/realistic age for her to stop?
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Post by BlackMaria on Jul 1, 2006 12:02:35 GMT -4
Imagine if Kylie were to still wear black lipstick and a pound of mascara when she turns fifty, y'know what I'm saying? I wish there were a compromise, but the only thing that comes to mind for me is sort of a mullet, and I doubt anybody wants to see that. People would have to evolve, you hope...although I've seen many wrinkled old ladies with 10 lbs of facial makeup. Anyone seen Robert Smith of The Cure or Alice Cooper in makeup w/all those wrinkles? Not pleasant, and neither is a mullet.
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Post by TheRazorsEdge on Jul 2, 2006 0:41:24 GMT -4
I would guess anywhere between 30 and 35 is the appropriate age for someone to stop being goth.
It depends on how much they SHOW their age, really.
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Post by SuperStantzio on Jul 2, 2006 1:58:13 GMT -4
:PI agree with that. Beside it would really look very tacky if the person was in their early or late forties and they still being both. So the 30's is a good time.
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Post by TheRazorsEdge on Jul 2, 2006 3:16:16 GMT -4
What it comes down to, at least for me, is that those kinds of fashion fads are okay in your twenties, but the big Three-Oh is the unspoken line where you're supposed to become a mature and respectable adult with a career and a husband and kids and a minivan and white picket fence and all that crap.
I can see someone like Kylie rejecting all that in sort of a premature midlife crisis, though, which is why I said it can go as far as 35.
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Post by EGBFan on Jul 2, 2006 6:10:38 GMT -4
Oh, thank you! I'm so relieved. That gives me at least another three years. I was thinking of stopping it when she was thirty, if I'm still writing fanfiction then (and I see no reason why I shouldn't be). And then what? I don't know. But I don't have to think about it just yet.
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Post by Kingpin on Jul 2, 2006 9:13:16 GMT -4
I'll admit I was a little too post happy with the copyright thing, but his ponytail was never explained story wise and he hardly fit the profile of a total hermit... afterall he still had a job to go to. I can imagine his hair not having the consistancy to hold the eccentric do... but I'd hardly say he'd stopped caring about his phyiscal appearance if he were conducting a regular job outside of the Firehouse. And a haircut and makeup are hardly the same thing. ;D Kylie being goth into her 50s would just be weird. Although, we're gonna have to sidestep the expected 'you're beautiful no matter how you look' tripe... that's so not Eduardo and it'd be cheesy enough to choke Jessica Venkman. It'd have to be fully Kylie's choice, of course.
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Post by EGBFan on Jul 2, 2006 15:47:22 GMT -4
I'm gonna say something really controversial. Ok, here goes. I don't think the writers/designers/whoever thought about the new hairdo that much. I have no evidence of this; I just believe it. It'd have to be fully Kylie's choice, of course. Of course. And she certainly wouldn't change because a man wanted her to. How Kylie chooses to look and behave has absolutely nothing to do with Eduardo. But we all knew that. ;D
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Post by TheRazorsEdge on Jul 2, 2006 16:01:20 GMT -4
Just because he still had a job doesn't mean he gave a damn how he looked. The point was that socially, he was shut off completely without Janine and the guys around. All I'm saying is, I can understand completely why a man like Egon, in a situation like that, would start to ignore trivial things like his appearance.
I dunno, maybe the disagreement here stems from the slight differences in culture here and in the UK? Are the shut-ins over there uptight enough to groom themselves regularly? lol
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Post by Silent Seraphim on Jul 2, 2006 21:07:53 GMT -4
Just because he still had a job doesn't mean he gave a damn how he looked. The point was that socially, he was shut off completely without Janine and the guys around. All I'm saying is, I can understand completely why a man like Egon, in a situation like that, would start to ignore trivial things like his appearance. I dunno, maybe the disagreement here stems from the slight differences in culture here and in the UK? Actually, I agree with you on this one and I’m from the UK, so I’m not sure that it’s a cultural thing or maybe I’m just the odd one out. I can totally see someone like Egon taking a more maintenance-free approach to his hairstyle as he got older. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’d have thought that the 80s style hairdo he had would take a lot of effort and hair gel to keep it in shape. Maybe he didn’t have the time, money or inclination as he got older to keep up with it, woke up one morning with his hair all yucky and just brushed it through and stuck it in a ponytail and left it like that. He would still look presentable to the outside world, but seeing as his friends had gone, and he might have also been a bit depressed as well, he probably wouldn’t have felt the need to keep the 80s style ‘do. After the guys and Janine had left, it might also have helped to signify the end of an era to him, like getting a major haircut after a relationship break-up. It’s like he’s saying ‘that was the old Egon, this is the new one’. Saying all that, though, there are some people who stick with essentially the same hairstyle their entire lives probably because they know it suits them and they haven’t really been bothered to change it drastically (UK television presenter Richard Madeley is a pretty good example of that - he's had the same hairstyle for years). It’s probably truer of men, who would feel less pressure to keep up with fashion than us ladies do, so like them, Egon could also have stuck to the style he knew best rather than changed it in any way. I suppose it depends on how you perceive the character and what you think he’d be more likely to do as he got a little older; whether he stuck with the same, or got tired of maintaining it and opted for an easier hairdo. Oh, and as I'm only six months away from the big three-oh, I’d really like to state that many thirty year olds don’t look significantly older than they did in their twenties (I was asked for ID to buy alcohol last year, and I’m way older than 18). I know plenty of clubbers in their thirties, and I have seen Goths older than thirty before. Okay, so the Goth thing is really something you grow out of once you’ve passed your teens, but not every thirty year old is ready to put their feet up in front of a fire and retire to bed at 9.30, you know! Gah!
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Post by TheRazorsEdge on Jul 3, 2006 3:59:37 GMT -4
Like I said, there are people out there who resist the onset of age and cling to whatever teen fad they've been living with past thirty.
It's still tacky though.
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Post by Kingpin on Jul 3, 2006 8:25:41 GMT -4
Maybe the whole problem is hermit against recluse...
I see hermit, I see a guy who's let his or her entire appearance go to hell where as recluse I just see as someone who doesn't go out much, but still holds some sorta place in the world.
Maybe that's it.
Regardless, I'll just let the stupid thing slide as it's not really that important...
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