Would a Ray/Janine pairing work?

[SuperStantzio]

Hmm I was wondering what does everyone think of a Ray/Janine pairing? Please don't flame me for this and I did read a few fics with this pairing and it was some was AU though if E/J didn't work out. There was a time that I used to like this pairing but now I'm not even sure. I just want everyone's honest opinion on this. Thanks. And I didn't write any fics with this pairing.

[CJ]

Thinking about it, a relationship between Ray and Janine couldn't work in execution: the two were two trains speeding off in different directions, but that didn't mean the two couldn't be friends.

I've always viewed Peter, Ray, and Winston as being essentially kids in their relationships with Janine: Peter is like Joey Lawrence/Eric Matthews/and Mike Seever type of brother, with Winston the middle child and Ray being the younger child with his love of science, technology and love for cartoons and comics.

Peter provides just the right amount of rappaport on the level of Mike Seever (which makes Janine Carol in this repsect), and enough of a sexual tension of Bruce Willis when he was on Moonlighting, but really it is just that and leads to nothing unless someone pulls a "God" and makes it so; Winston is good for being the sibling people usually go to when they need to talk (but it probably could differentiate between older and younger sibs). Which brings us up to Ray, who could have fun with Janine but isn't naive enough to know she has the hots for Egon. He'll have his fun, from a friend standpoint, and that is it.

I think it'd be fun to explore their relationship though, since maybe he might have developed a crush on Janine at some point, never realized it, and moved on.

[SuperStantzio]

Yeah that's ture. at first I wanted to some fics with that pairing. But then again, after I tried it, it didn't seemed to work though. Althrough that I do admit I did read some stories that Ray and Janine were together and or Ray had a crush on her. Some were AU fics.

[Silent Seraphim]

I’ve read a few Ray/Janine stories too, and although they’ve been very well written, I’ve never really felt comfortable with the pairing. I feel much the same with Janine/Winston pairings.

I quite agree with CJ that Ray and Janine have more of a younger-brother, older-sister type of relationship going on. I think she kind of mothers him, instead of loving him in a romantic sense. Even if Ray might have had a little bit of a crush on Janine in RGB, I really don’t think Janine would ever reciprocate.

I don’t know if I could even picture her turning to Ray if a relationship with Egon didn’t work out. Maybe it could happen if Ray became the shoulder-to-cry on which leads to something else. The Ray/Janine relationship would definitely cause some friction between Egon and Ray, which I think might be interesting to read, fanfiction-wise, so I can see the attraction in writing such a story.

Other than that, I really can’t imagine that Janine would suddenly forget about Egon and fall for Ray after the many years she’s been trying to get Egon’s attention, and I don’t think Ray would actively pursue a relationship with Janine because he would already know that prefers Egon. She hasn’t exactly been subtle about her feelings for Egon, which would probably be quite hurtful to Ray if he had been interested in her. Ray would end up feeling like he’s second best, which wouldn’t really be a great start to a relationship. He also might be aware that Egon likes Janine, and if that were the case I think Ray would be too much of a nice guy to interfere with his best mate's love interest.

[SuperStantzio]

Yes that's true. I also do seem this pairing only a friendship thing but nothing else more. unless something happen to Egon or things didn't work up and I do see Janine turning to Ray if that does happen.

[Fritz]

I moved this to Fan Projects, since it's not part of the Ectozone continuity, and, quite frankly, if both the movie and RGB continuities are taken at face value, it doesn't really fit there.

I think CJ and Seraphim hit most of the points I thought of--Ray's pretty shy, and when it comes to female attention he kind of fades into the woodwork. He doesn't chase anything with double X chromosomes the way Venkman did (at least before he and Dana got truly serious) and neither does he have Egon's wierd magnetism.

Basically, I see him completely used to them getting all the women. No wonder he retreats, in the movies, to (depending on whether you follow the intent or the final cut) relationships with ghosts or dreaming about relationships with ghosts. Heck, that could be a problem in and of itself--if he's wrapped up in some fantasy of a really exotic supernatural woman, it'd be hard for a real woman to match up to that.

Wow...this guy could really have some issues, couldn't he? I have no doubt he could've thought, at least once, about what it would be like to peel Janine out of that blue tanktop and miniskirt and go to town, but on the whole..."She likes Egon better, even if she didn't Peter would probably get her, and heck, she's just a normal woman anyway so why would I waste my time?"

[SuperStantzio]

No problem. That was just a thought on this paring even it did happen in AU as well. Some people like this paring and others well they have mixed feelings about it. I almost wrote a fic on this but I didn't I'm actaully glad that I didn't. And besides I already gave Ray his love interest in my fics.

[Kingpin]

This could be the source of an interesting social experiment.

Write a story, that for all intents and purposes suggests they're a couple... but in actual fact it's something a lot more sinister... a possession which the guys haven't let on to that they've seen the change in character... and are waiting for the right moment to strike.


On relationships with Ray and Winston: To be honest... I'm not sure if there'd be a huge basis for a relationship, even excusing her obvious infatuation with Egon... there's little she seems to hold in common with either Stantz or Zeddemore... at least, anything beyond maybe a few dates...

I agree, that she feels like their sister... the Ghostbusters have a unusual and unique family dynamic... and that's one of the great things about the show: They're one big disfunctional family, maybe not a family by ancestry or geneology, but because they know each other so well and trust each other.

[SuperStantzio]

Maybe I could try that. But who knows? But I'll shall see though. Some writers did write fics with a Ray/Janine or Janine/Winston paring in it. But mostly I also feel that Janine is more like their sister they all admire.

[SuperStantzio]

oh here's the website that I read some of the R/J fics from

www.downdilly.com/myfic/rgb/holesindex/index.htm

Those are some of few that I know

[SuperStantzio]

Did anyone check those stories out I linked to?

[CJ]

It's one of those "Idulkneuxs" to me...

I still can't wrap my head around Ray and Janine being together like this. However, the AU revelation of Egon being presented in this light is interesting in a bizarro sort of way (Egon being represented as the Janine in his pursuit of the Egon like Peter Venkman).

I guess getting past the weirdness of it all, it's a good read.

[SuperStantzio]

Yes, that's true I mean the pairing could work in a AU if things don't work with Egon and Janine. So that is a possibly for Ray and Janine to get together, in my opnion.

[Kingpin]

cj said:

It's one of those "Idulkneuxs" to me...

I still can't wrap my head around Ray and Janine being together like this. However, the AU revelation of Egon being presented in this light is interesting in a bizarro sort of way (Egon being represented as the Janine in his pursuit of the Egon like Peter Venkman).

I guess getting past the weirdness of it all, it's a good read.

Wha what? What's this about Egon?

[CJ]

kingpin said:

cj said:

It's one of those "Idulkneuxs" to me...

I still can't wrap my head around Ray and Janine being together like this. However, the AU revelation of Egon being presented in this light is interesting in a bizarro sort of way (Egon being represented as the Janine in his pursuit of the Egon like Peter Venkman).

I guess getting past the weirdness of it all, it's a good read.

Wha what? What's this about Egon?

I mean as I says it.

The story appears to be a subtle, less-than-extreme Slash fanfiction without featuring the stars. Sort of like a weird episode of Friends, if Joey and Chandler were ever shown to be "in that way" for each other.